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<p>If you&#8217;re active on Product Twitter, then you already know <a href="https://twitter.com/johncutlefish" target="_blank" rel="noopener">John Cutler</a>.  It&#8217;s not just that he&#8217;s extremely prolific &#8211; it&#8217;s the quality and depth of his tweets (and <a href="https://medium.com/@johnpcutler" target="_blank" rel="noopener">his longer essays</a>) that reach deep into the heart of what we&#8217;re struggling with on a daily basis &#8211; especially his post <a href="https://hackernoon.com/12-signs-youre-working-in-a-feature-factory-44a5b938d6a2" target="_blank" rel="noopener">12 Signs You&#8217;re working in a Feature Factory</a>. Now a Product Evangelist at Amplitude, John joined us to talk about removing the roadblocks that stop you and your team from being as effective as possible.</p>
<h3>Quote of the Episode</h3>
<blockquote><p>All product managers should set aside [time] every day to do the deeper work&#8230; product managers are so reactive, they&#8217;re always struggling to keep up &#8211; yet if you don&#8217;t do the deeper work&#8230; you&#8217;re always going to be on the back foot. Not doing the busy work &#8211; but actually revisiting assumptions.</p></blockquote>
<h3>Listen if you&#8217;d like to learn more about:</h3>
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<li>What is a product team?</li>
<li>Organising your day</li>
<li>Creating learning teams</li>
<li>Scaling</li>
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<h3>Links mentioned in this episode:</h3>
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<li>Catch John at the <a href="https://www.agileleanireland.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Agile-Lean Ireland conference</a> (also featuring our producer, Emily Tate!)</li>
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<h3>Hosts</h3>
<p>The Product Experience is hosted by Lily Smith and Randy Silver.</p>
<p><strong>Lily</strong> enjoys working as a consultant product manager with early stage and growing startups and as a mentor to other product managers. Lily has spent 13 years in the tech industry working mainly with startups in the SaaS and mobile space. She has worked on a diverse range of products &#8211; leading the product teams through discovery, prototyping, testing and delivery. Lily also founded ProductTank in Bristol, the Product Managers&#8217; meetup with regular events and talks on Product now with 800+ members and growing. This year Lily will be launching ProductCamp in Bristol and she joins the MTP team as co-host of  The Product Experience podcast.</p>
<p>A recovering music journalist and editor, <strong>Randy</strong> has been working as an interactive producer and product manager across the US and UK for nearly 20 years. After launching Amazon’s music stores in the US and UK, Randy has worked with museums and arts groups, online education, media &amp; entertainment, retail and financial services. He’s held Head of Product roles at HSBC and Sainsbury’s, where he also directed their 100+-person product community. He&#8217;s also spoken at Mind the Product Engage (Hamburg), at a number of ProductTanks (London, Zurich, Manchester, Birmingham, Bristol, Oxford,  &amp; Brighton&#8230; so far!) and at conferences across the US and Europe.</p>
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<h3>Music</h3>
<p>Our theme music is from Hamburg-based Pau, featuring ProductTank Hamburg’s own Arne Kittler on bass. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Paupulism/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Listen to more on their Facebook page</a></p>
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